burglary after sneaking into an impound lot looking for his car. the ugly, the boston bruins hockey series has a fans sign which says toronto is strong knock on the boston strong slogan have a great day folks. "fox & friends" starts right now. >>gretchen: good morning. it is wednesday, may 8. i'm gretchen carlson. thanks for sharing your time. we have disturbing new details from the ohio house of horrors. the three women who escaped were not the only ones. this morning the search for more bodies and who is still missing. >>steve: chained up and separated. new details about inside that house. we've got an exclusive tour of that house's layout straight ahead. >>brian: is there a national security coverup going on in washington? could we finally get the

answers? three benghazi whistle-blowers take the stand today, and what they have to say is explosive. we have a preview. >> "fox & friends" starts now. >>gretchen: we begin with a fox news alert. brand-new details emerging about that house of horrors in cleveland, ohio. three brothers arrested of cueing amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight captive for more than a decade are going to be question by local and federal law enforcement with possible charges also coming their way. this as authorities are searching the home where the women were held. tuesday police used a cadaver dog to help them in their search. police are investigating other properties in the area. this after michelle knight reportedly told them when she was first kidnapped there was another girl with

her but she disappeared years later. >>steve: in particular, what the authorities are looking at is regarding the tip from michelle knight because michelle knight was the first person we know of who had been abducted there. there was a girl there, and the theory is -- that's michelle knight, we finally got a picture of her. there is a theory that in 2007 when 14-year-old ashley summers disappeared, she was initially thought of as simply a runaway, it is thought perhaps she is the person. a few years after that the f.b.i. started linking her with the other two girls who were missing. perhaps we're talking about ashley summers who could have in the house. >>brian: or it could be something that had nothing to do with that. we know they were locked up, locked up in the basement. even the son said when i used to visit my dad, he said you could not go in the basement. there was a padlock on it. we're going to get to some detail on it.

we know how many clues there were over the past ten years, there was something horrific going on inside. police in many cases, seemed quite obvious to have dropped the ball. when someone says there is three women being trailed on a leash in the backyard crawling through naked, i think you'd find a way to get inside that house. i'm pretty sure any judge would sign that warrant. >>gretchen: there was a report of a woman standing up in the attic window, according to police, the attic was also locked up, holding a baby and trying to pound on the window for attention, and people say they called the police, and yet they came to the house but they knocked and when there was no answer they apparently left. the police are saying yesterday that they have no account, no record of those particular calls. but there's going to be more and more information. both on the side of the police and the people who were in the area, now they're going to look back and say, yeah, i remember seeing a naked woman in the backyard. if you called police one time, if you saw a naked woman on a chain in your

neighbor's yard and you figured, they must have come and solved it or would you call again? i think the blame or culpability goes on both sides. >>brian: michelle knight seems to have taken the biggest physical beating. when you look at all those three, it turns out they had multiple miscarriages perhaps and there has been one pregnancy. >>steve: brand-new chilling details revealed about that house of horrors. ainsley earhardt is live in cleveland this morning. >> hey steve, brian, gretchen. we've learned new details about what investigators found inside this house behind me. this is as close as we can get. it's the third house and where those girls were allegedly kept for more than ten years. we're being told they were chained by the waist and neck, there was other bondage material found

inside the house, that they were kept in separate bedrooms. there is an attic in this house where some of the girls were kept; also in the brick basement that looked like a dark dungeon according to investigators that was about 760 square feet. the conditions horrendous. they found chains hanging from the ceiling inside the basement. we did get an exclusive look inside a house in this neighborhood that is built very similarly. take a look. >> we're on the west side of cleveland now in the same neighborhood that ariel castro lives, the man accused of kidnapping these three women and holding them hostage for the last ten years. many of these houses were built the same around the same period and have similar layouts. we're going to go inside this house and show you what one looks like on the inside. we're walking through the front door of this house in the same neighborhood as castro lives, and this is the entrance area or the living room area. most of these houses look like this? >> yes, most of the houses

do look like this. they're old houses and stuff. >> built the same time? >> same time. >> marilyn, this is your kitchen area? all the houses lead from the living room into the kitchen? >> exactly. >> usually in the back of these houses marilyn was telling me is a staircase like this one here in her house that directs you downtown to the basement. marilyn, where are we going now? this is your basement. most of these houses have these basements? >> yes, they have old-fashioned basements. >> is it bizarre to know these women were kept in the basement for ten years? >> that is a long time to be kept away. it is almost like they were prisoners for a lifetime, you know. >> very scary. >> very. >> a very scary scene there down in the basement of that home. imagine being trapped down there for ten years.

we did talk to some of the neighbors in the area. one neighbor said that he saw ariel castro in the park with that six-year-old little girl. >> i asked him whose was she? it's my girlfriend's daughter. i'm talking to him whaoe she goes play with my daughter and the tphaeubts. watching four little girls playing and everything. beautiful. then i take my daughter home and he leaves. the next day i see the same little girl in the park believed to be amanda berry's daughter. and he's got michelle knight in the house. in my backyard, it could have been one of our kids, you know what i'm saying, that would have been next. >> we're being told if those girls were allowed to leave the house, they were never allowed to leave at the same time. and if they went in the backyard, they were kept on leashes like dogs. >>steve: great report.

>>brian: that israel lugo says his sister is the one who saw a woman clutching a baby begging for help upstairs. >>gretchen: they heard a scream and they weren't sure where it came from. they called authorities and nothing came of it. let's tell you more about ariel castro, the alleged kidnapping suspect. apparently reports are now saying on record that he beat his ex-wife so severely, some reports say he kept her locked up in her home for three years until she finally got out and divorced him. she has since passed away. he had limited contact with his son. we told you about his son yesterday who ironically wrote that newspaper article for his school paper about the missing girls having no idea it was his father who was holding them. his son had limited contact, said he was not allowed to go into areas of this house as well. there is a daughter in this situation, ariel castro's daughter who is serving a 20 to 30 prison sentence for slitting her baby's

shroet. 11 months old. >>steve: she freaked out after she was dumped by the baby daddy of her child and then went out in the garage and tried to kill her child. she was eventually sentenced by a judge. at the sentencing, she told the judge i want you to know i'm a very good mom. she told the judge. the baby now is living with her sister. >>gretchen: it's hard to keep these things together, to mention the police were in the house in 2000 because ariel castro called. there was a fight in the street. police were at the house in 2004 because he apparently left a child on the school bus. they knocked on the door, nobody answered and they left. >>brian: the latest call is 2012 when four senior citizens picked up the phone, called, waited two hours for the cops to show up. they didn't. >>steve: yesterday we told the story and we said what a great relief these girls mate -- made it out alive. now we find out the

details, absolutely disgusting. >>brian: we have a lot more. gretchen. >>gretchen: another deadly ship accident in italy. a cargo ship goes into a control tower sending it into the ocean. at least four people died. six more still missing. a search for survivors underway. some of the missing believed to be trapped in an elevator that plunged into the water. it is unclear what caused the crash. the captain said the engine failed causing them to lose control. >> the reelection of former governor mark sanford is complete. he won a special election for his old congressional seat in south carolina. the victory four years after admitting to an extra marital affair. >> some guy came to me the other day and said you look a lot like lazarus. [inaudible] at the end of the day i will [inaudible]

by an incredible team of volunteers that are represented in this room. >>gretchen: stick around because mark sanford will be live with us coming up next hour. >> a horrible injury in baseball as a blue jays pitcher is hit in the head with a line drive. hard to watch as the ball slams off of his head with a loud crack. the ball rolled halfway down the right field line he was hit so hard. players on both teams looked on very concerned. he was down for several minutes before being taken to the hospital on a stretcher. he is reportedly now in stable condition. >>brian: this brings up the whole conversation should you have a helmet on the mound. they are already talking about having a bulletproof lining inside a soft cap that would cover 40% of the head. what a dangerous position that is. >>steve: it is about 12 minutes after the top of the hour on this wednesday. after months of unanswered questions over benghazi, three whistle-blowers are about to have their say on

capitol hill. what can we expect? and did a white house coverup put our national security at risk? that is coming up next. >>brian: anthony weiner's come-back attempt a big come-back attempt a big secret by spitzer? look what mommy is having.

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>>brian: in just a few hours three whistle-blowers in the benghazi terror attack will test. all are expected to assert that the obama administration did not tell the truth about what led up to the assault, blew the response itself and did not tell the truth about that. and the question is: who are the talking points? is this a national security coverup? lieutenant colonel ralph peters is author of this new book "hell or richmond" first things first, what do you think is the area you hope the most focus is on today? >> the coverup. we can't get the lives back. clearly to me when it all went down in benghazi, the administration facing election went into panic mode, wanted to contain it. don't send in the military,

don't blow this into a bigger thing. they put politics above the security of our diplomatic personnel. >>brian: why do you say that? they said they didn't know. they were trying to assemble the facts in a chaotic situation. >> i understand chaotic situations but they were hearing from the ground in benghazi and tripoli this was a major terrorist attack. i'm angry. the bottom line for me is the obama administration is telling so many lies about benghazi and its aftermath, they make nigerian phone scammers look like paragons of integrity. what i hope happens today is these men who are testifying don't lose their nerve in a clinch and methodically and objectively lay out those lies told to the american people. >>brian: ed henry had direct questions for jay carney about that very topic. let's listen. >> last week you said from this podium that the departments of state and defense had told you and had told congressman issa that they were not aware of

anyone else in either department that wanted to come forward and say anything about this. now that there are it looks like two or three witnesses that are going to be speaking publicly at a hearing on wednesday, do you think they told you the whole story last week? >> i don't understand. these witnesses are going to talk to congress, and we have said that we are not aware of anyone who has been blocked from speaking to congress if they so choose to or want to speak to congress. not blocked over the last eight months. >> were you unaware of anyone being blocked from congr? >>brian: one of those people is gregory hicks. if gregory hicks is the deputy under ambassador stevens, maybe the last person he talked to before the terror attack, he said and will testify reportedly there was a team ready to launch from tripoli and they got the orders from special operations command in africa to abort. that, to me, is the most grievous crime, to not help our guys who had their lives on the line and many who would die.

>> let's be clear, the military would not have given that order on their own initiative. the military's instinct is to ride to the sound of the guns, go to the rescue. that clearly was directed from washington. and i personally believe it would have been very difficult, if not impossible, to save those four lives, especially the ambassador because of the time lines. but we should have tried. people are under fire. you don't sit back and say i hope the smoke blows over. the obama administration in this case was cowardly, duplicitous and they sack tpao*eused american lives -- they sacrificed american lives for politics and the american people need to understand that despite the fact that the media would cover for obama no matter what he did. >>brian: he served our country as lieutenant colonel. you're an unbelievable analysis and also have another great book out, "hell or richmond." a fictional account of what happened during our civil war. >> an account of one month, the bloodiest month of

american history until the last year of world war ii. 88,000 american casualties this 30 days. the battles in northern virginia in may and june of 1864, we were more divided once. 88,000 americans one month, blue and gray killing each other. >>brian: the greatest fighting force in the world turned their guns on each other. significant and a great part of american history we have to study. lieutenant colonel ralph peters, great to see you. i'll talk to you on radio shortly. straight ahead, no cemetery in the country wants to bury the boston bomber, but you're about to meet a man who says you can put him next to my dead mother. and it's been under wraps, another company that got $50 million in government loans goes belly up. why is this one a double why is this one a double dose of embarrassment?

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>>steve: quick wednesday morning headlines. the million-dollar award for ex-cop turned killer christopher dorner will be spent three ways. 15% will go to the guy who found his burning truck and the tow truck driver who spotted dorner at a gas station gets 5%. the majority of it, about $800,000, going to the couple whom he held hostage. meanwhile, his disgraced -- did eliott spitzer get an idea from anthony weiner's attempt? "the new york post" says he could run for office again if he works his way up from a smaller position and

proves himself again. the former new york governor resigned in 2008 after being busted with hookers. >> gretch, over to you. >>gretchen: it's official, another green company backed by the department of energy has gone bust. the government awarded vehicle production group, a company who built wheelchair accessible vans a $50 million loan in 2007. but the company which closed in february finally announcing they are officially shut down. stuart varney here to weigh in. you're wearing a green tie. it's appropriate we're talking about energy. >> actually we're talking about the failure. this is another embarrassment. there is a long list of green energy policy failures where the taxpayer has lost literally billions of dollars. this is the latest, p.p.g., they were making vans for disabled people. they were -- they got $50

million because some of the vans were expected to use natural gas fuel. that gave them an entitlement to this green energy loan, $50 million. they're shuttered, jobs gone, they're out of business. >>gretchen: it seems like you don't have to prove a lot of green energy usage to be able to get these loans. we were seeing that first with solyndra. >> $530 million down the tubes. then you have fiskar, electric car consider, $537 million. there is a long list. look at the screen. b.p.g., that is the latest embarrassment for the green energy policy. >>gretchen: it would be interesting to see whether or not some of these loans have since been approved. i know there were directly after the failure of solyndra. it would be interesting to see if they are still being approved at the rate they were. >> listen to the president's speech in texas this week. he's going down there in

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>> we are back with more on the fox news alert where this morning there are more victims in that cleveland

house of horrors including babies born to the three women who escaped. there were a number of miscarriages, that is to say. police in cleveland searching the house and are interested in searching nearby properties as well. this after the oldest victim, the first one that we know of who was actorred michelle knight, reportedly told police officers there was another girl there at the house when she was first kidnapped but she disappeared. there are also reports of the women having at least five babies. only one we know of survived. >>brian: are you following all this? this is incredible. also today three brothers accused of holding amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight will be questioned by police and possibly charged. i think they have to be charged within 48 hours. live in cleveland with the unfolding of a complicated and grisly story. >> you saw those pictures of the three brothers, ariel, pedro and o'neal. there is another brother.

his name is eric. imagine being the seublg -- sibling of those three who were arrested. obviously he's scared to come out and talk in front of the camera, but he it confide in a family sprepbd and we spoke to her as she was drinking on her porch trying to escape all of this having a few beers with a friend. take a listen. >> i did speak to eric today. i went to his house. eric is not involved in any of this. he's not one of the ones in jail right now. eric is a good person. he has got a good family. he's trying to -- he's distancing himself from them, and he feels really bad. when i visited him today and i saw the sadness in his face, and he said "i can't believe my brother had anything to do with this, and that my other two brothers are involved, i don't think they were involved." he said there's got to be a mistake. he said i always thought

there was [inaudible] somewhere but for this, he says i can't believe this. >> she said ariel, a lot of people in the neighborhood are saying he's a nice guy, she said obviously she felt differently about him. the castro brothers that were arrested, they will be charged at some point today because federal law states they have to be charged within 48 hours. that 48 # hour window closes this afternoon. >>gretchen: it would be important because if we've been talking about these miscarriages or pregnancies, if there were babies they're digging up in the backyard or missing women who end up dead, those charges are going to completely change from kidnapping and whatever else comes with that to possibly murder. it's interesting with authorities, i don't know if they have to do that within the 48 hours or as new information comes about they can change the charges. i imagine it is the latter. >> it will be interesting to find out if one of the brothers will come up with

a plea bargain and speak on behalf of the other brothers so he can get out of the charges. the lady we spoke with on her front porch, she does suspect that will happen. >>brian: they usually take the one that is the least immersed in this horror, and they try to break him first. thanks. the way they describe the two brothers: alcoholics without jobs living with their mom. >>steve: ariel, abusive and a puncher and a control freak and everything else. >>brian: except with guys. when challenged with guys he evidently backs down. >>steve: we have told you that michelle knight was the first of the women who were abducted that we know of. and initially, and we finally got a picture of her -- it was unavailable yesterday because for a long time it wasn't linked to the other two disappearances because it was assumed she was a runaway. michelle knight's mother arrived at the airport from florida, and she wants to reconnect with her daughter

because she wants to make amends because it did not end well the last time they saw each other. >>gretchen: apparently there is a big article in the cleveland plains dealer this morning about how they grew up in normal upbringing. shaoeptd to be a -- she wanted to be a veterinarian, michelle knight. there was an assault at school. she became pregnant in school and that's when the disappearance. there has to be a way police look at missing people versus abductions. i know there's so many they have to investigate. for instance, in this case they never reallyven though she was 19 years old. i guess she's technically an adult. what about the 14-year-old and the 17-year-old? i think there may have to be a different way of looking at whether it's abduction and immediately going after it at least for the first 24 hours. >>brian: keep in mind

too, the police say we were called almost every day for ten years about somebody seeing them, hearing them, have a certain lead and we tried to follow up on all of them. we're not saying we know how to do the job better than the cleveland police, but it does seem there would be situations where you have to find a way to get in that house. >>steve: amanda berry was the young girl who was abducted after she was walking home from her job at the burger king. she, pictured there with her older sister, spoke on the phone with her grandma for the first time in ten years. and here is some of that conversation. >> hello. >> amanda. >> yes, grandma. >> i'm glad to have you back. >> good to be back. >> i thought you were gone. >> no, i'm here. >> i'm here for you. >> thank you so much. i missed everybody. i love you guys so much. >> the little girl is your baby? >> yeah, she's my daughter.

>> we've got to get together soon. >> i know it. >> i love you. thank god. >> i love you too. >> i thought about you all this time. i never forgot you. >>brian: of course her mom passed away. >>gretchen: after she was told by a psychic that she was dead. >>steve: silvia brown on the montel williams show. friends of the mother said she died of a broken heart. yesterday some of the sound we were able to get our hands on early was the 911 call. >>brian: we thought this from the get-go. a little cold and callous. >>steve: it did seem as if the operator was in a hurry to get off the phone. there was a reason for it. we're going to play a little snippet of it for you and then talk about the review that has since come out. >> stay there with those -- talk to the police when they get there. >> okay. >> okay. talk to the police when they get there. >> okay. hello?

>> yeah. talk to the police when they get there. >> okay. are they on their way right now? >> we'll send them as soon as we get a car open. >> i need them know before he gets back. >> who's the guy who went out? >>brian: she starts to come back and ask some questions. obviously the woman did not know who amanda was. everybody else in the neighborhood was and was astounded she was alive. i've heard other 911 operators talk, and they seem the opposite of this woman. they seem to want to elicit more information. >>gretchen: we're not sure if it is a man or woman dispatcher. there were two things that jumped out yesterday. that point about keeping on the line and sort of sounding a slight bit dismissive. the line that popped out at me was we'll get you a police car when we can. i'm thinking maybe it was all a shock factor and the dispatcher was not putting it together that this woman said she had been missing for ten years. >>brian: when she said you've got to get there now

before he gets back, i'm not hanging up that phone. >>steve: there has been a review. they say the operator did comply with all the policies and the procedure. the police were there within two minutes. so she obviously put -- it's all prioritized. you try to figure it out. she got them there quickly. however, the review does show the operator should have probably stayed on the line. >>brian: i thought she put the call through in 90 seconds but the police got there in two minutes from the 90 seconds. >>steve: from the time she dispatched them, they were there in two minutes, 120 seconds which is great response anywhere. >>brian: to other headlines, no cemetery in the country wants to bury the boston bomber. and now a guy is stepping forward and saying bury him next to my dead mom. retired high school teacher paul keen is offering tamerlan tsarnaev's family a private burial plot in connecticut. he wrote this on his blog: the only condition is that i do it in memory of my mother who taught sunday

school at the mount carmel congregation church for 20 years and taught me to love thine enemy. obviously there was no one at the finish line he knew at the marathon. >>gretchen: why does one hospital charge $8,000 for a procedure and another one charges $3 8,000 for the same thing? today the federal government will release a list of the cost of different hospitals. the release is part of an effort by medicare to increase transparency. >>steve: the south carolina teacher who lost his job because he stomped on an american flag during class received a whopping $8 5,000 settlement. taxpayers will cover his lawyers fees and salaries through early june. the school district made the deal to avoid a federal lawsuit. >>gretchen: who does america trust the most? >> my mama always said life

was like a box of chocolate. you never know what you're going to get. >>gretchen: this is like our trivia question. in my script it doesn't say who it is. it says the actor. i know it is tom hanks voted the most trusted american in a reared's digest poll. they asked 1,000 people. three more actors took the prize. sandra bullock, denzel washington and meryl streep. the first nonhollywood person on the list is maya angelou, the famed poet. >>brian: for me it's sty stallone. the musical is coming up. going to sing about boxes. >>steve: a hail storm battering denver last night. the area also hit with lightning and heavy rain. it is raining outside our studio here in new york city. in fact, there she is, maria molina. >> good morning. good to see you. that's right, we're talking rain out here in new york city. it's coming down pretty heavily. it's been coming down

throughout the overnight hours. we're expecting it to continue throughout the day today. parts of colorado will also be dealing with more stormy weather not just today but even over the next several days. the reason is all of our storm systems don't have anything to move them along. they're going to be very slow moving. severe weather will be possible across the center of the country. temperature-wise, very warm in texas. 88 degrees for your high in dallas. 67 in new york city. seattle not bad. 74 for their high. steve, gretchen and brian? >>gretchen: thank you so much. i love the umbrella with the jacket and fox logo behind it. >>brian: i love the rain sound effect in the background. >>steve: a new medical breakthrough for people suffering from chronic back pain. turns out your cure could be as simple as a little pill. what is the pill? dr. samadi has the answer. >>gretchen: why sunday night will get a lot better. you can thank cary

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>>gretchen: if you're waking up, quick headlines. new york city lawmakers about to make small

business owners provide pay sick leave to an estimated one million workers who don't already have it. critics say some smaller businesses can't afford the expense. >> are you ready for some cary? ♪ why ♪ >>gretchen: cary underwood taking over the theme song for sunday night football on abc. she replacing faith hill. let's go over to steve. >>steve: millions of americans suffer from back pain and often turn to surgery as a last resort as a way to fix bat feelings. new research this morning shows up to 40% of back pain may be caused by a bacterial infection. 40%. so does this mean a simple antibiotic can be the cure? fox news medical a team

dr. david samadi joins us. the answer is yes? >> if you've got an infection around your back pain, pain area, an antibiotic can solve the problem in many cases? >> this is a fascinating new study. if you talk to a lot orthopedic surgeons they will tell you they thought bacteria caused back pain but they were rare. now a new study says a majority of the pain is caused by bacteria. how does that happen? bacteria from your skin that causes acne or from your teeth can get into your bloodstream and they actually travel that you have this slipped disk, the space between the disk, that is where the bacteria can get in there and causes inflammation. >>steve: that's where the pain comes from. if somebody is watching now, the news is before you get surgery, maybe you should talk to your doctor about putting you on a three-month course of

antibiotics? >> if you do this today a lot of doctors will brush it off. i'm sure a lot of people will be skeptical about this. if they put them on 100 days of antibiotics, and the pain -- we're talking about patients who have had chronic, over six months of pain -- completely went away because of bacteria. something to think about. this is a major study that just came out of the european journal, and it's big news. >>steve: there are a lot of people who may be thinking about back pain surgery, but this could change everything? >> this is a game changer. a lot of surgeries we're doing right now may not happen again. >>steve: dr. samadi, big news. >> straight ahead, in what theater did john will -- did john wilkes booth assassinate president lincoln? the host of monumental

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>> we just asked you where lincoln was killed. but there's more about these places -- there's a lot of stuff you don't know about other places. that's where the new show "monumental mysteries" comes in. we have the host of that show. good to see you. you have moved on from going to the underground and pompey. what is this >> monumental show came out

of mysteries at the museum. it is the stories of america, the story of america through the monuments, statues, gravestones. it is an incredible epic story that many chapters are represented by objects we see around us both big and small. >>brian: we just accept them. we don't say how did they get here and who put them here. >> i was driving in new hampshire, a civil war statue, one of of many and you think people take these things for granted and yet they represent, they are tips of icebergs of stories that are amazing. >>steve: you give us facts we don't know. you've got a quiz. you're going to quiz us. >> great monuments and small. brooklyn bridge, how many pedestrians per day go over the brooklyn bridge. >>steve: we have a choice of 4,220 or zero because it does not allow pedestrians. >>gretchen: it does because i've walked it for charity. >>steve: 4,000. >> that's the one.

it's a lot of people every single day. in what theater did john wilkes booth kill abraham lincoln. how many known escaped attempts took place on alcatraz. >>brian: i would say 14. >> exactly. i thought it was two. the big famous one is the clint eastwood. the last one is what? >>brian: what was the statue of the republic of chicago built to commemorate? >>gretchen: i'm going to say the world's fair. >> interesting. this is the kind of thing we do on the show. that's a famous statue people know very well. but the story behind that is interesting which is the story of disappearance of hundreds of people, perhaps hundreds because of a crime. as we look at the windy city, that's the stuff you'll see on "monumental mysteries" premieres tomorrow at 9. >>brian: are you brilliant on the show?

>> i am brilliant. >>brian: straight ahead, forget boston strong. this guy thinks toronto is stronger.

>> gretchen: good morning, everybody. today is wednesday, may 8. hope you're began have a great day. i'm gretchen carlson. thanks for sharing your time with us today. disturbing new details from the ohio house of horrors. a look at what it looks like from another house right nearby. and how these women lived for all those years in isolation. >> brian: and today is the day, the benghazi whistle blowers hours from taking the stand and spilling what they know and what they know is explosive if the preinterviews are any indication. could it reveal a national security cover-up in washington. >> steve: fresh off a win and reclaiming his old seat in congress, in the first district of south carolina, mark sanford joins us live for his victory lap on this wednesday morning.

"fox & friends" hour two for wednesday starts right now. >> gretchen: we begin this hour, fox nurse alert. the three brothers accused of holding amanda berry, gina dejesus, and michelle knight captive will be questioned by police and possibly charged. there were more victims inside that cleveland house of horrors. police searching the house and are interested in searching nearby property. this after the oldest victim, michelle knight, reportedly told cops there was another girl there when she was first kidnapped, but then that girl disappeared. >> steve: that's right. >> gretchen: apparently michelle knight has one of the most egregious injuries. she apparently could be deaf after being beaten so fearly over the last 12 years. she also may have broken bones

within her face. >> steve: so when she, michelle knight, arrived at the house and that's an image of her in 2002, there was another woman there who vanished. interestingly enough, we're hearing stories that apparently on the basement wall there is a rand written woman's name and next to it, the words, rest in peace. could that woman possibly be ashley summers, who went missing in the same neighborhood in 2007? that's her right there at 14 years old. she had been living with her great uncle. they had argued and initially she was thought of as a run away. but then in 2009, the f.b.i. looking for berry and dejesus expanded to include ashley. of course, her family is hoping she is alive perhaps in that neighborhood. >> brian: they're finding out as they're combing the premises there, it's not that big a property, 40 by 100. but i will say this, as you look at all three, one thing they all have in common, even they they were kept separately, reportedly, they were starved

often, that they were given very little. we understand there has been at least five pregnancies that we believe resulted in miscarriages. >> gretchen: and one child. >> brian: one child. she is now six years old. we later found out that she was seen playing on the playground in the neighborhood and we're told that's my girlfriend's daughter by this accuser, ariel castro. so we're trying to find out and piece together what was going on in that house. obviously it was a prison for these three. >> gretchen: apparently the basement was padlocked, the attic, the garage. there were chains hanging down from the ceiling, at least in the basement and i believe that ainsley earhart is live for us out at the scene now. she has more on what that house exactly looked like and another house nearby gives us an exclusive look at what the inside may be look. good morning again, ainsley. >> good morning, brian, gretchen and steve. yes, you could see behind me, this is the house, three houses

in where those girls were allegedly kept for more than ten years. you can see some of the sheriff's deputies, cars parked in front of the house. they got here an hour ago. yesterday the scene was different. there were so many media outlets here, lots of haz-mat crews parked in the front yard, men walking around in white suits. they brought the cadaver dogs out to search. we're hearing the backyard and the premise. the women did -- they were allegedly chained in the basement. they found chains like you said, gretchen, hanging from the ceiling. they were chained from the waist and the neck, we're being told. bondage devices were found inside the house. they were allegedly kept in separate bedrooms. some in the attic, the brick basement as well, which looks like a dark dungeon, which is 760 square feet. we did convince a lady here in the neighborhood to give us an exclusive look inside her house which is very similar. we're on the west side of cleveland right now. in the same neighborhood that ariel castro lives, the pan

accused of kidnapping these three women and holding them hostage for ten years. many were built the same, around the same period and have the same layout. we're going to go inside this house and show what you one looks like on the inside. so we're walking through the front door of this house, in the same neighborhood as castro lives. this is the entrance area or the living room area. most of these houses look like this. >> yes, most of the houses look like this because they are old houses. they were built at the same time. >> marilyn, we're walking through. this is the kitchen area? >> yes, ma'am. >> all of the houses, they lead from the living room into the kitchen? >> right. exactly. >> then usually in the back of these houses, marilyn was telling me, is a staircase like this one, here in her house that directs you down to the basement. marilyn, where are we going now? is this thank is your basement. most of these have these? >> yeah. old-fashioned basement. >> is it bizarre to know we're standing in your basement now

that these women were kept in a basement similar to this for we know years? >> that's a long time to be kept locked away. it really is. almost like they were prisoners for a lifetime there, yeah. >> very scary. >> very. >> extremely scary. the house behind me considered a crime scene today, obviously. f.b.i. out here yesterday taking down the front door, bagging it up and taking that away, maybe for evidence as well so they can continue and further their investigation. back to you, brian, steve and gretchen. >> brian: thank you very much. real quick question, have you had a chance to talk to any of the neighbors about what they thought and what they might have seen over the last ten years? >> oh, absolutely. we've talked to so many neighbors. in fact, there is a house right here to the left of me and the guy who lives there, we spoke to him yesterday. he said he had no clue. he feels like he's a little bit responsible for this because the girls were inside that house for ten years. he talked to ariel castro often. he said even the other day they

within to the park and he took his little girl who was playing with the little girl that was with ariel castro. >> it had been a long time these girls have been missing and i walked by this house every day. it's really a hard thing to do, man. you got three kids. i have my daughter here and my other daughter, i would go ballistic. i promise you, you don't have to worry about that, because they took those girls' lives. >> there he is talking about what he would do if this situation happened to his daughter. he said he was playing in the park with ariel castro and what he believes to be amanda berry's little girl. back to you, brian, steve and gretchen. >> steve: thank you very much. one of the other clues that one of the neighbors since told reporters in cleveland is the fact we would see him every night come home with a big bag

of mcdonald's food and a tray of drinks. why would a guy, a single guy living in that house boarded up eat a whole tray of drinks? we're also learning from mr. castro's own family, his son said that his dad was a drunk, a controller, an abuse freak and on the grounder who nearly beat his mother to death as she was recovering from brain surgery. >> brian: that's the one that ends up writing the story to the paper as a journalism student about this whole thing. the police say the neighbor who you just saw, israel lugo, said his sister told him that she saw a woman clutch ago baby begging for help in the upstairs window. they called the cops. they knocked on the door, but never went inside. >> gretchen: or on some of the other clues that may have been missed. in the meantime, more family history for you for ariel castro. his daughter now, we're finding out, serving life for at least -- at least 20 to 30 years, for slitting her 11 month

old baby's throat in some sort of venge against the father of that baby, although she told the judge she was a good mother back in 2008 when that happened. so it appears that dysfunction was evident in this entire family. the two other brothers apparently unemployed. it will be interesting to find out if they were on the government dole as well, all three of them, because ariel castro had quit his job as a bus driver recently. those two older brothers were living with their mother. now that home has been searched and she has been questioned. really interesting question that we heard yesterday, brian, remember when we were doing the radio show. did ariel castro or any of those brothers own any other properties in the cleveland area, because if so, that would be one of the first places that police should be going to. >> steve: this particular property was in foreclosure for nonpayment of real estate taxes. he also as it turns out, was fired from his job for doing a u turn in a school bus filled with children. >> brian: he also brought a kid home in the school bus evidently. >> steve: now, what people are doing now is they're saying,

okay. how many times did the police, cleveland police get called to that house? according to their official records, so far it looks like twice. once reported when he, mr. castro reported a street fight and the other time when the kid was left on the bus. however, two years ago, neighbors called and said yeah, we saw naked women crawling around in the backyard behind a great big blue tarp and a chicken wire fence. they were naked on leaches. cops came. dismissed it as a prank. then brian, you talked a little bit about -- >> gretchen: the cops say they have no record. i'm just saying what their response is, that they do not have any of those calls. >> steve: right. the neighbors were told it was dismissed as a prank. then in 2012, four senior citizens called the police, said there is something going on in that house. they waited for the police two hours. the police never showed up. >> gretchen: one of the most compelling pieces of information this morning is amanda berry's mom who since passed away in

2006, that she apparently got phone calls right after amanda berry disappeared and somebody said, i want to make your daughter my wife. it wasn't just one call, it was a series of calls. she begged to be able to speak to amanda on the phone and apparently the other person on the line, a man, told her that he would return her within a matter of days. of course, that never happened and we don't know whether that was ariel castro or somebody else. >> steve: what a story. >> gretchen: now to today's headlines. another deadly ship accident, at least four have been killed after a cargo ship slams into a control tower. six more are missing. some are believed to be trapped in an elevator that plunged into the water. it's unclear what caused the crash, but the captain reportedly said it was engine failure. this crash reviving memoryies of the costa concordia tragedy. three whistle blowers on the benghazi terrorist attack will

testify, all are expected to assert the obama administration lied about what led up to the assault, then lied about that. in a preview of the testimony given to fox news, we know gregory hicks will say he loved every day of his job until the attack. he's expected to contradict early administration claims that it was not a terrorist attack. acting deputy assistant secretary for counterterrorism mark thompson will also testify. >> what we want to know from mr. thompson is whether or not there were assets that could have been deployed during the siege, whether or not our fellow americans were crying for help and we could have helped them and for whatever reason chose not to. >> gretchen: the state department insists there is no way a response team could have made it to benghazi any faster than it did. why does one hospital charge $8,000 for a procedure and another charges 38,000 to do the same thing? apparently it's because consumers are not able to comparison shop.

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>> steve: he was ready to quit politics for good if he lost this race. but looks like former south carolina governor mark sanford will be staying after all in politics now that he has just defeated democratic opponent elizabeth colbert bush in the fight for his old house seat in the first district of south carolina. >> brian: sanford never lost a race. the road to victory has not always been an easy one. >> gretchen: former south carolina governor mark sanford joins us now after a big victory night. congratulations to you. >> thank you. i appreciate it. >> brian: congressman, they say the key to your victory was your debate with the cardboard cutout of nancy pelosi. who is your art director and why

did that work? >> well, it was actually one of the debates that i won. i think it was actually the tenor of the debate more than anything else rather than the art director. >> steve: last night you said, i want to acknowledge a god not just of second chances, but of a god of third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, nine chances because that is the reality of our shared humanity. what did you mean by that? >> i meant by that, we all have feet of clay and we're all imperfect and i think that this larger notion of god's grace and human grace which is an extension of it is incredibly important to every one of us sort of walking through this journey we call life. and i think that this notion of forgiveness, which i think is what god is all about is part and parcel to this larger notion of taking events of life and making them sort of refining points as opposed to defining points. i think a lot of people in

politics want to take something you have done wrong and i clearly did wrong in 2009 and make that to your whole life as opposed to a refinement point which is ultimately what the larger message and spirituality and god is all about. >> gretchen: apparently the constituents in south carolina in the first congressional race liked what you had to say about that. let's take a look at the final results. you received 54% of the vote. your opponent, elizabeth -- i guess she doesn't go by colbert. she doesn't have the french pronunciation. it was an overwhelming victory. what do you hope to accomplish and why do you want to go back into congress when some members of congress are saying, look, it's too partisan. we want out. >> it may be. but i think we're at an incredible tipping point as a civilization. if we don't get things right in terms of the way washington spends money, we'll see profound consequence as a result of the american dollar, in terms of the

future rates of inflation, and therefore the worth of our savings. i think we'll see incredible imapply cautions in terms of the american way of life and the dreams that it has historically afford. i think we're at a tipping point as a civilization and we have a relatively short window in which to get this thing right. i want to try to represent noble this congressional district, but to impact the way that washington spends money. >> brian: are you concerned that steven colbert, in defense of his sister, will attack you relentlessly on his show? >> i'll live with that and all the other slings that go with life. >> steve: we do, too. he is the comeback kid, governor now, congressman, mark sanford, thank you for joining us from south carolina where somebody is backing up a truck for a very long time. >> yeah, it's very loud over there. my apologies. >> brian: but you are unflappable with that beeping in the background. thanks so much, congressman. >> gretchen: coming up, whistle blowers about to testify about

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>> gretchen: quick headlines. an investigation has been launched to see if police used unnecessary force in this shocking shootout. watch this. it happened last may while chasing a drug lord through a residential neighborhood. multiple homes were hit by bullets from the helicopter but no residents hurt. new prostate cancer test hitting the market today. the genetic test measures the aggressiveness of the tumors and helps decide if treatment is

next. doctors say some tumors are deadly, while others are not. the new test hopes to identify the deadly type and reduce overtreatment of nondeadly tumors. let's go back upstairs to steve. >> steve: thank you. just couple of hours, benghazi whistle blowers, three, will take the stand to speak out to lawmakers will what really happened during and after the terrorist attack on september 11 of this past year. the obama administration has been under fire for ignoring the facts surrounding the terrorist attack which begs the question, should the mainstream media be held just as responsible for the way it has covered this attack? dr. katie is the news editor for townhall.com and fox news contributor. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> steve: we've been talking since the get go about what happened in benghazi right here on the fox news channel. it's been covered on talk radio, on the blogosphere, but mainstream media ignored it. >> so we'll see at the hearing room on capitol hill whether the

press seats are full or whether they remain empty and who is in those seats. the "new york times" has been getting a lot of heat this week for ignoring the benghazi scandal. they actually had to put out a statement by the public editor asking, is "new york times" really ignoring this? the answer is yes. as of just eight hours ago, "new york times" hadn't reported on what the new revelations of the administration telling military forces to stand down when going into rescue. >> steve: you know, this is one of those examples where you can see the media bias by what a channel or what a newspaper chooses to cover. for instance, if you're reading the "new york times," you don't see anything about it, you don't know about benghazi. you watch fox news, you know about it, right? >> right. bias comes in many forms. the way the mainstream media operates is in their biases, by ignoring scandals. we just saw this with the fast and furious scandal, benefiting scandal preelection and post

election, we haven't seen much pushback on hillary clinton's comments about what difference does it make. it just seems like a lot of these outlets don't have much -- any really concern for what actually happened here and deaths of americans. we've seen that through the lack of coverage. also a form of bias. >> steve: it will be interesting to see. i was reading a breitbart.com that a number of democrats agenda is simply today to protect hillary clinton because she could be running for president in a couple of years. katy, we thank you for joining us today from our dc bureau. >> than you. >> steve: what do you think about that? e-mail us. meanwhile, an incredible scene caught on camera. a chopper goes down straight into the ocean. oh, my goodness. how did anybody make it out of there alive? we've got the story of survival. and forget boston strong. that guy thinks it should be toronto stronger. word of advice to him.

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born to the three women who escaped or remains of miscarriages. the oldest victim, michelle knight, reportedly told cops there was another girl there when she was first kidnapped, but she disappeared. there are also new reports of the women having babies, miscarriages, et cetera. only one child that we know of survived. that's the six-year-old child of amanda berry. >> steve: the three brothers accused of holding amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight will be questioned and possibly charged. ainsley earhart is outside the house on seymore street in cleveland with members of the castro family. ainsley? >> hi, steve. we're here with julio and his wife. the boy's uncle. his store is right across the street. and maria is first cousins with those three boys that you just had on the screen. we're looking at the pictures of your first cousins that are behind bars and have allegedly been holding these girls for ten years. what goes through your mind as a

castro member? >> devastation. obviously shock. this was all unfolding to our family as well as it was to the rest of the world. we had no indication of any of this and we are deeply saddened that members of our family could have had anything to do with this. but first and foremost, i just want to express to gina, to amanda and to michelle how horrible we feel for everything that you went through. these girls lost ten years of their lives and they're never going to get that back and there is nothing that we could ever do or say to make that better and to give them back a part of their childhood. but they are true heros here. they survived in this house beyond all odds and i applaud them for that. i hope that they can somehow, some day find normalcy in their

lives again and move on and move past this and reunite with their families and reconnect with what they've lost. >> very emotional for you. i can see it. >> you knew these girls as well? >> my boys went to school with amanda berry and my family has known gina dejesus' family for as long as they've call we've all been in chief land. it is truly emotional. truly unbelievable that so many people who knew these brothers were fooled. their own children cannot come to grips right now with how this has all transpired. our family is trying to come to grips with how this all happened and how this was kept quiet for so long. it's unbelievable. >> growing up in my family, our cousins were very close. we spend holidays together. this is your first cousin. these three men who were arrested, your first cousins. did you grow up playing with

them? did you see any signs in their personality? >> they didn't grow up initially with us here in cleveland. they are the sons of a first wife of my uncle, my father's brother who has since passed away. and they grew up in a different household. they were first born in puerto rico. they came to pennsylvania, then from pennsylvania as approximately teen-agers, came here to cleveland. so we didn't grow up with them like we did with the rest of the castro cousins. but obviously they were always embraced as part of our family. they were -- we saw them at weddings and funerals. but you know, when you grow up in a family, you grow apart. you get your own family. you have your own children. you focus on your own small family, your own family life. >> you never had a chance to go in the house behind us where the girls were allegedly kept? >> i had not ever been in that house during the time aerial

lived there. neither at this time he was single nor married living in the house. >> let me ask you, you grew up watching these boys play with your kids. did you see any signs? >> no. none whatsoever. >> your family store is across the street and they grew up in there and working in there as well? >> they never showed signs of any evil, evil on them. >> you did speak to one of the family members as well. real quickly, you spoke to gina's grandfather. what did he say? >> no, i spoke to gina's uncle. very briefly. he didn't say much at the time. we are all shocked. >> okay. thank you so much for being with us. we're saddened for your family and what you have to go through and for those girls and what they endured. back to you, steve, brian and gretchen. >> gretchen: all right. ainsley, it's gretchen. great job on the interview there. thanks so much for that information. police in cleveland using cadaver dogs and for that we're going to go to brian and steve.

>> brian: what a good idea. let's talk about that because police in cleveland are using the cadaver dogs, like the ones we have here. joining us now is michael, director of canine training and joe, an explosive detection canine handler and that is freedom. also making a guest appearance. michael, what's the role of the dogs in a situation like this? >> the role of the dog in this situation would be as being used for evidentiary purposes. i believe when the investigators develop leads, then the information will be provided to the canine handler and then he'll be able to deploy his dog searching for people or for maybe the lost children or whatever. >> steve: sure. joe, there are different kinds of dogs, aren't there? >> yes, there are. explosion detection cadaver. >> steve: so freedom right here is an employee detection dog. >> yes. >> steve: obviously, michael, the kind of dog they're use not guilty cleveland is a cadaver dog because they're looking for

people. >> yes. they're either looking for, as i said earlier, evidence or looking for some missing people. so the cadaver dog has the ability to search for people, as well as look for remains. >> brian: here is the thing, they bury these people. they go way down. how effective are the dogs to picking up scent on bodies that could be buried? >> the dog has the capability of picking up minute traces of odor dogs scenting ability is 40 to 100 times better than man, for example, to show you how the dog's nose is much stronger than a human's nose. >> brian: eight feet under, could still pick it up? >> steve: all right. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> brian: in new york, you definitely need an explosive detector. >> steve: we have them all throughout this neighborhood. gretch, over to you.

>> gretchen: thanks very much. two people lucky to be alive after their helicopter crash noose waters off of new zealand. two people were on board. fortunately they were not hurt. the pilot was test fly ago carbon fiber chopper. after being rescued, he called the crash uneventful. >> the reason we were out of the water and still are in flight evaluation phase, if you like. up until now, the helicopter has been flying really well. >> gretchen: officials say the pair crashed in the perfect spot, surrounded by agencies that were able to help. and one hockey fan should spend some time in the penalty box. look at this sign at game 3 of the toronto maple leafs boston bruins series. it says toronto stronger, which is a direct knock on the boston strong slogan. the fan facing a ton of backlash. boston's coach responded with

class saying that the fan was misguided. forget just running on the treadmill. how about dancing it out as well? this guy spicing up, yeah, a boring workout by busting out some dance moves. he doesn't seem worried about losing his balance. the best part, other gym goers don't even pay attention to him. he must be a regular. the person who filmed it says, yep. he does it every day. my husband used to walk backwards on the treadmill and i would be like, wow. then i tried it and he said, i don't know. somebody told him it was a good idea. but he didn't have the dance moves like that. >> brian: i think it was amazing. as he was doing the moves, as we go outside, as we see the moves, we see him looking around trying to get somebody to notice besides the camera man. maria, is it raining outside? >> yes, good morning. it's really raining outside. it started to pick up a lot over the last couple of minutes out here. the window is also a little breezy. so keep that in mind. new york city, it's going to be a messy morning commute for you as you head out to work.

basically we're expecting unsettled weather throughout the day today and over the next several days across the northeast, parts of the center of the country, also expecting unsettled weather and even across the rockies. that's really because the jet stream well off toward the north and that's keeping the storm system at a very -- moving at a very slow pace. temperatures, warm in texas. upper 80s for dallas. 60s over here in new york city. back inside, steve, gretchen, and brian. we have the rain boots on out here, our umbrella, geared up. >> steve: she's ready. >> brian: the question is, is ted, is ted ready? he's the camera guy. >> steve: ted is standing in the door. >> the guy is too cool for rain boots. but they have their rain coats on. >> gretchen: thanks very much. coming up, finally free, but is their nightmare over? dr. keith ablow on what's next for the three women who escaped the cleveland house of horrors. >> brian: the number one reason couples fight. money. but financial guru dave ramsey says it doesn't have to be. his tips on how to save your

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>> gretchen: we're learning more about the three ohio women who were kidnapped as teen-agers only to escape nearly a decade later. >> help me. i'm amanda berry. >> do you need police, fire or ambulance? >> police. >> what's going on there? >> i've been kidnapped and missing for ten years and i'm here. i'm free now. >> gretchen: so while the nightmare of being held hostage may be over, what psychological battles will the women now face? we're joined by forensic psychiatrist dr. keith ablow. good to see you again. >> good morning. >> gretchen: it's been 24 hours since we first spoke to you and this story started unfolding. do you have any different initial thoughts now? >> well, clearly the fact that these three brothers are joint venturers, or accused of being a trio of possibly psychopaths is one literally for the psychiatric journals. normally when you have three people, one of them would have a

conscience, moral underpinnings to not go along, to get along. so it goes right back, gretchen, you would want to know what did those boys grow up with that shattered their capacity for empathy and why did two of them live at home as adults with their mother? that's not a good sign. >> gretchen: apparently they were alleged to be alcoholics and unemployed, which could be part of the reason. but that doesn't explain being a psychopath. but i'm also interested, we touched on this a little bit yesterday. how could the three of them be so secretive for ten years and never tell anybody else? your thoughts on that. >> again, it's this isolation. when you're dealing with people who are able to feel nothing for others, it's not just that they can beat women or imprison them. it's that literally they don't feel they owe to the outside world or to others any communication necessarily. so the filter of friendship, of blood, of being a relative to someone, none of this apparently registered with these brothers who are cut off from others in a

tremendously frightening way. that doesn't happen today. doesn't happen a month ago. that happened as they were children growing up in a house, i promise you, that would curl the hair at the back of your neck if you knew what they went through. >> gretchen: wow. what about these young women now and that six-year-old little girl, what kind of battles are they going to face? i shutter to think. >> it's just starting. when we say they're free, we should have an asterisk 'cause here is the thing. with posttraumatic stress disorder, when you think of nightmares, terrors during the day, the likelihood that you usingseek to quiet some of your alcohol or drugs, a six-year-old who emerges whose relationships could be foreverren unable to be balanced and unable to find comfort in the world, raised in terror. the question is, how much of that can be repaired? psychiatry is a great art. for that reason, there is some hope. but with many caveats.

>> gretchen: hopefully they will get the kind of help they all deserve at this point. dr. keith ablow, so great to have your insight. thanks so much. >> thanks. >> gretchen: the number one reason couples fight. money. but dave ramsy is here to save your relationship. p first on this date in 1977, "hotel california" by the eagles was the number one song. it's still good in 2013. ♪ such a lovely place ♪ living it up at the hotel california note ♪

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dave ramsey takes plenty of phone calls to his show just like this. >> i've been dating a girl here for about two years and we've recently discussed seriously get willing engaged. she thinks because i make more money and i can afford to pay all the expenses on my own, that i should be responsible for them if we were to be married. i view it differently. i view it if we're married, we should share the expenses equally. >> you're treating it like it's a joint venture or a partnership, not a marriage. it's no longer mine. it's ours. >> okay. >> i don't have an income. we have an income. i don't have a house. we have a house once you're married. >> brian: dave, i fault the woman for even bringing it up to begin with. you pay? he's just trying to defend himself. why are you always taking the woman's side? [ laughter ] i'm taking the side of a good marriage and a good marriage is old-fashioned ideas that when you get married, everything

becomes ours. the old-fashioned marriage vows even said, unto thee all my worldly goods i pledge. >> brian: what about prenups and separate accounts? >> we don't do prenups unless someone is extremely wealthy and the person they're marrying is not. prior to that -- other than that, stay away from them. if you're not willing to take a bullet for someone, you shouldn't marry them. if you marry your collectible car in your garage more than your fiance, don't marry them. >> brian: very good. michelle from north carolina says this question for you. my very serious boyfriend is in debt from a previous marriage, near $30,000. i have just over 100,000 in savings. should i help him pay off his debt after we get married or let him continue to make payments on his own? dave? >> well, again, when we're married, when we trust each other enough to spend our lives together, we're going to combine our assets and our liabilities. i would pay that off right after the honeymoon. >> brian: greg from arizona says every time i look up, my wife is signing my kids up for more

activities. fortune. two boys up for summer we disagree about what is necessary what weather it comes to spending on social activities and sports. how do we handle this? >> well, every couple should be doing a written budget together before the month begins. then there is not any surprises on the side. you can discuss everything 'cause money flows to life and when you can agree on your budget, you've agreed on life and kids and summer activities. >> brian: all right. gina says i do the grocery shopping and i'm tired of coming home and being interrogated about what i bought. what should she do? >> two things. take the gonnaer to the store with you and let him see what things cost and number two, again, do a budget before the month begins and agree on an amount. put that amount of cash in an envelope, label as food and stick to that amount? le thanks so much. solid advice, social and financial. see you soon. straight ahead, she's a domestic terrorist, convicted cop killer and now a teacher.

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>> gretchen: good morning, william come to our final hour of "fox & friends" this morning. it's wednesday, may 8, i'm gretchen carlson. thanks for sharing your time. explosive new details about the terror endured by the missing cleveland women. turns out they may not be the only ones. the horrifying clue investigators reportedly found on the basement wall. >> steve: and there may have been a flag outside the house, but inside, a crime scene. this morning we're getting a firsthand look at what the house may have looked like from a house in the neighborhood just like it. brian. >> brian: and is there a national security cover-up in washington? we're about to find out. three benghazi whistle blowers take the stand today and we're getting a sneak peek at their explosive testimony. let's see if their preview is going to be replicated when

they're actually on capitol hill. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> gretchen: let's get to that fox news alert. today the three brothers on your screen there, accused of holding amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight captive. will be questioned by police and possibly charged. there is also word this morning there were more victims inside that cleveland house of horrors. police searching the house and are interested in searching nearby property. this after the oldest victim, michelle knight, reportedly told cops there was another girl there when she was first kidnapped burks she disappeared. >> steve: we're just learning that the police are apparently going to be having a press conference there in cleveland shortly and the charges should be filed very, very shortly as well. meanwhile, regarding the first woman we know of who was abducted, a woman named michelle

knight, you just saw her image, she has told investigators when she got there in 2002, there was another woman in the house, but she vanished. didn't know where she went. keep in mind, the women were kept in different parts of the house. they were chained, they were taped. they were secreted away. if one was let out of the house into the backyard, they were only let out one at a time, according to the authorities at this point. the question is, the other woman. who was it? could it possibly have been 14-year-old ashley summers who disappeared from the same neighborhood back in 2007? it was thought initially she was a run away, because couple of years later, they started linking it to the disappearance of the other two young girls. >> brian: as you look at what they went through, repeatedly raped, evidently there has been about five miscarriages, one birth. and there is one report of somebody saying multiple little girls came out of the house.

seeing if there was other little girls in there. but michelle knight is the one that perhaps is the most extraordinary story because nobody was really looking for her. the family said that she's the one who took perhaps the biggest physical beating and many people thought she just left her house on her own. >> gretchen: at 19 because she apparently was having troubles at the time, she had lost custody of a toddler son and she was just considered a run away. when you get over the age of 18, then i think this whole idea of abduction and amber alerts may be goes by the wayside. her mother moved to florida and basically said she had heard no nothing from the police over all of these years. she's made her way back up to try and be reunited with her daughter. but unfortunately, it appears like you say, that she suffered the most damage. she apparently could be almost deaf from the beatings and has broken bones that have reheeled in hess face. >> brian: gina dejesus is the one that -- this is unbelievable. that might have been playing

with aerial, accused abductor's daughter. might have been best friends, might have been the last person to see her before she was taken into the house for ten years. >> steve: also we should point out, and we'll talk a little bit more about the rhyme suspect, he apparently attended a couple of vigils that were held for some of the missing girls. also when authorities were digging up one plot of land nearby looking for amanda, i do believe. he said what are you doing? he said we're looking for her. he said, it's a waste of time. don't bother. >> brian: charles ramsey is the one with the sound bite that was descriptive who actually found amanda trying to break out of the house. he referred to mcdonalds so often in his conversation, mcdonald's said thanks so much for mentioning us. we will be in touch shortly. >> steve: he works at a restaurant. >> brian: washes dishes. >> steve: he works at hodge's restaurant and throughout the cleveland area, they're selling a t-shirt with charles ramsey on it. it says cleveland's hero, all of

the proceeds of that t-shirt go to the women who were rescued just yesterday. >> brian: i wouldn't mind helping him out either. now brand-new details being revealed about what was found inside the house. joining us live from cleveland issues ainsley earhart. hey, ainsley. >> hey, brian, steve and gretchen. just got off the phone with someone here that works with the city and even they are not necessarily in charge of the investigation inside the home with the search and recovery efforts there. he did say that the search inside the home and around the home has been concluded. that was being conducted by the f.b.i. evidence recovery unit. those are the guys you saw on the video that we were showing you yesterday. i think we have some of that video here. the guys that were dressed in the white suits. they look like haz-mat crews. they brought in dogs yesterday. the sheriff's department did arrive earlier morning. they're out here monitoring making sure media and other people don't get too close to these homes.

you touched on this, they were chained at the waist and neck inside the house, bondage devices were being found inside the house. that the girls were kept in separate bedrooms. the attic, the brick basement, which looks like a dark dungeon. 760 square feet. we did convince a neighbor in an area to let us into her house. many of the houses look a lot alike and constructed around the same time. we have video of that. take a look. west side of cleveland now, in the same neighborhood that ariel castro lives, the man accused of kidnapping the three women and holding them hostage for the last ten years. many of these houses were built the same, around the same period and have similar layouts. so we're going to go inside this house and show you what one looks like in the inside. so we're walking through the front door of this house in the same neighborhood as castro lived. and this is the entrance area or the living room area. most of these houses look like this. >> yes. most of the houses do look like this because they are old houses and stuff.

>> okay. marilyn, we're walk walking through. this is your kitchen area? >> yes, it is. >> all of the houses, they lead from the living room into the kitchen? >> right, exactly. >> then usually in the back of these houses, marilyn was telling me, is a staircase like this one here in her house that directs you down to the basement. marilyn r are we going now? this is your basement? >> this is the basement. >> most of these houses have these? >> yes, they have old-fashioned basements. >> is it bizarre to know that these women were kept in a basement similar to this for ten years? >> that's a long time to be kept locked away. it really is. it's almost like they were prisoners for a lifetime there, you know. >> very scary. >> very. >> extremely scary ordeal for all three of those girls that were involved in but they are back home safe and sound with their family members. >> brian: i'm wondering, is there some guilt among the neighbors that, number one, they didn't see signals or number

two, that they didn't press the police to actually go inside the house sometime over the last ten years? >> yeah, they're saying they feel like this happened in their backyard. they didn't notice the signs. they said that after a month, two months, they could understand maybe not knowing that these girls were holed up in the house, but it happened over a ten-year period, allegedly. they are. they're very embarrassed. some feel like they let the girls down. >> gretchen: some neighbors say they called the police when they saw a girl up in the attic a baby and some saw naked women on leashes in the backyard and now i understand that one of the moms of one of the victims has come back to the scene this morning? >> that's exactly right. we saw the mother of michelle knight, that third victim. we got her picture overnight. michelle knight's mother, i heard you say earlier lives in florida. she was here on the scene. she didn't want to talk to the media, but she's in that car pulling away. she wanted to come here and

assess the situation and see this house here in cleveland on the west side of cleveland. we also heard that the dejesus family is going to convene as a family today at 4:00 o'clock and make a decision as to when they will speak to the media next. we'll continue to monitor that situation. i did get off the phone with a commander here that works for the city. he is on his way down here. i can interview him. he'll address the 911 calls. he said he wants to clear things up in regards to those 911 calls 'cause the media is -- we've heard so many different stories snap that will be great. thanks very much. >> you're welcome. >> gretchen: your other headlines. governor mark sanford, now a congressman. the former governor of south carolina won a special election for his old congressional seat. the victory four years after admitting to an extramarital affair. >> forgiveness, which is what god is all about, is part and

parcel to this larger notion of taking convenience of life and making them sort of refining points as opposed to defining points. >> gretchen: sanford never lost a race in four-runs for congress and two for governor. we just learned a ship slammed into a control tower. six more people are missing. some are believed to be trapped in an elevator that plunged into the water. it's unclear what caused the accident. it revised memories of the ship accident of the costa concordia that left 32 people dead. no cemetery in the country wants to bury the boston bomber. but someone says bury him next to my mother. paul keane offering a tamerlan tsarnaev's family a private burial plot in the state of connecticut. he wrote this on his blog. the only condition is that i do it in memory of my mother who taught sunday school at the mount carmel congregational church for 20 engineers taught me to love thine enemy.

jesse watters confronting convicted cop killer turned columbia professor kathy bodine. she spent 22 years behind bars for a 1981 armored car robbery that left two police officers and a brink guard dead. she says she is sorry. >> i have nothing but regret. >> gretchen: she has never reached out to the victims' families. and those are your headlines today. >> brian: it should be electric on capitol hill as the oversite committee of the house talks to three people, two of which can be categorized as whistle blowers. mr. nordstrom came forward before and told contradictory records from the official record and the arb on what took place in benghazi on september 11, 2012. i know the people are doubting

we'll make progress is congressman cummings, the ranking member on the committee. he'll be shoulder to shoulder with darrell issa. >> steve: somebody who studied this and knows a lot about it is lindsey graham. he's a senator, not part of the action on capitol hill. but yesterday on his facebook, he wrote, i think the dam is about to break on benghazi. it's interesting because yesterday the department of state came out and said, we hear all these critics who say we could have had help there sooner. that's not possible. however, charles woods, the father of ty woods who died in the attack, he was on with hannity last night and what he's looking to for today's testimony is answers. >> most important question is why. we need to know why the decision was made so that this won't happen in the future again. of course, you need to know who so you can ask the why question. but the why question i think that for the benefit of america --

>> brian: you know some of the help came on the way because they defied orders to abort the mission and not help. >> gretchen: that will be the crucial thing is can they make that direct connection to actual officials in the state department or otherwise, saying don't go to help. if that comes out today, that's explosive. if it's just that hey, this was really a terrorist attack from the beginning, claim that the administration eventually came around to, then i don't know if it will be as explosive. >> brian: gregory hicks would be the one to talk about the military help. >> steve: only the president of the united states was someone acting on his authority could ask somebody to stand down. it looks like something like that happened. you'll see it right here on fox. 13 minutes after the top of the hour. neighbors did try to call the police on ariel castro, but this happened. >> cops came and they pounded on the door, about 20 times. five, six minutes. there was no answer. >> steve: he pounded on the door 20 times. did the officers drop the ball? ohio native and former homicide

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>> gretchen: quick headlines now. is disgraced democrat elliott spitser taking a note from anthony wiener's play book? the former new york governor

resigned in 2008 after being busted with prostitutes. drilled in the head with a line drive. it was hit so hard, he was down for several minutes before being taken to a hospital on a stretcher. he's reportedly now in stable condition. >> steve: after struggling years to have a baby, it looks like her dedication has paid off. julianna and bill rancic welcoming a new member to their family, baby duke. joining us to talk about her plans for her first mother's day is a mom herself, tv personality you'll i can't in a rancic, congratulations. >> thank you. >> steve: you thought a lot about having a baby 'cause you tried for a while. >> yeah. >> steve: so this first mother's day is going to be really sweet, isn't it? >> it is extra special, yeah. i just can't believe it. it's a dream come true to know that i'm going to my first mother's day. 'cause we struggled for years

with infertility and i went through breast cancer, as you know. we talked about that. and to finally come out of it on top with this wonderful little baby is fantastic. >> steve: is his first name edward? >> it's edward. and edward is bill's father areas name and my father's name. duke was just a name we came up with. >> steve: come on, it's salute to john wayne. >> it is, the duke. absolutely right. that's why we did it. but we just thought it was a cool, strong name. >> steve: of course, he's less than a year old right there. and in real life. so he's not going to be able to go down to the hallmark store and get you a card. >> he better, oh, no he better. >> steve: i think your husband is going to have to do some of the leg work. >> he better step it up this mother's day. you know how many years i struggled to have you, child? no. yeah, daddy better step it up this weekend, no, no. it's good. bill, i think bill has something up his sleeve this weekend.

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>> gretchen: welcome back. fox news alert. could the 911 operator in the cleveland house of horrors be under review? we don't know if it's a man or woman. but apparently they are for this specific reason. the idea they did not stay on the line with amanda berry when she called monday late afternoon, early evening to say she had escaped and that she had been kidnapped for the past ten

years. >> brian: here is what stands out. now that she's a famous person, especially in that region missing for ten years, but the fact that she's on the run from a guy that could be coming after her, hurry up. send a car. it just didn't seem like the playbook on how to handle a 911 emergency situation from the civilian side. >> steve: so if you have been living in somebody else's house for ten years and you're afraid that guy is going to come and get you, the last thing you want to do is get off that phone, right? well, that's kind of what happened monday night. >> okay. stay there with those neighbors. talk to the police when they get there. >> okay. >> okay. talk to the police when they get there. >> okay. hello? >> yeah, talk to the police when they get there. >> okay. are they on their way right now? >> we're going to send them as soon as we got a car open. >> no, i need them now before he gets back. >> all right. we're sending them, okay. police are on the way.

talk to them when they get >> i told you they're on the way. talk to them when they get there. >> okay. >> thank you. >> gretchen: amanda seemed incredulous, wait a minute, are you going to hang up? wait a minute, i'm finally free. the other thing that jumped out was the idea, yeah, we'll get a police car to you when we can. they did get there relatively quickly, but it seemed like it -- it didn't seem as important. maybe the dispatcher had no clue who she was and maybe she was in shock as well. >> steve: right now the authorities are saying that the dispatcher did comply with the procedures and the policies as well. they're going to look into it further if any sort of corrective action needs to be taken. >> brian: what do you think? are we being overly critical? i just thought -- >> steve: if her entire phone board was left with 1,000 phone calls, okay. i've sent the police, somebody will be with you. i have to go to the next call. that's not abundantly clear that's what's happening there. >> brian: it's not petty coat

junction. >> gretchen: ainsley earhart has just spoken to police authority who says that dispatcher will be spoken to. the action not yet known, but that the dispatcher should have stayed on the line with amanda when she was calling in. so more to come on that. ainsley is conducting that interview right now. hopefully she's going to get answers within the next 30 minutes for us about whether or not these neighbors actually did place those calls that they're telling reporters they placed now about women being naked in the backyard, being led around on their hands and knees on a leash and that nothing was really done about that. >> brian: cops want to push back on that. they seem to want to push back on that now and i think that's what the press conference will be in a little while. >> steve: one thing about the operator. the overriding reasons the operator should have stayed on the line is because amman at that was freaked out. she sounded hysterical. stay on the line with the person. now they're going to get a talking to. we'll find out what happens, if any corrective action is taken. >> brian: straight ahead, for the first time, michelle

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>> hello? >> hi. >> how are you? i'm glad to have you back. i thought you were gone. >> no. i'm here. >> we're happy down here for you. >> thank you so much. i miss you and love you guys so much. >> i have a daughter. >> we got to get together soon. >> i know. >> i love you, honey. thank god. >> i love you, too. >> i thought about you all this time. i never forgot you. >> brian: amanda would find out her mom passed away. that's got to be tough. >> gretchen: that was amanda berry's grandmother as they poke for the first time, touching reunion. more to come now as the families come back together of the but so much more to learn. police intense tying their search at the home. here is an important fact. other nearby properties. this after word there could be

more victims, including babies born or miscarried fetuses to the three women who escaped. the oldest victim reportedly told police there was another girl there when she was first kidnapped, but she disappeared. there are new reports the women having had babies or miscarriages, but, of course, the only surviving child that we know of is the six-year-old that belongs to amanda berry, the father unknown, but probably one of those three accused men. >> steve: all right. now the latest on the investigation. police are combing through missing persons' cases right now. let's talk to rod wheeler, former homicide detective and also an ohio native. rod, you know what? we're hearing from michelle knight, she is the woman who we believe was abducted first. she said when i first got to the house, there was another girl there who vanished. they looked into the past and there was a girl who went missing about that time in 2007, ashley summers, a 14-year-old, thought to be initially a run

away. is that the kind of lead they should be looking at right now? >> steve, that's exactly what they're looking at. as a matter of fact, just to add a little bit more to that, recent information that i found out from my sources in cleveland, ohio, where i grew up in cleveland, i'm learning that there is about two or three other individuals that went missing right around 2007, 2008 that the police are trying to see if there is any correlation with these other missing females right around the same age, right around that same time. so i think they're looking at all of that. incidentally, they also found in the basement of that home as it's already been reported, there was the initials rip, which stands for rest in peace. it had another female's name written underneath that rip. the question for us as investigators is who was that person and if you notice, yesterday they were digging around the house quite a bit. >> steve: yeah. >> brian: i also see all three were abducted around the same area in and around that burger king. i understand investigators only thought there was a link with the three disappearances.

>> they did. you know what? as a matter of fact, that burger king, i'm very familiar with it. it's a very hot spot in that area. it's right on lorraine off 25th street and a lot of people are in that area. it's a very busy area. there is a lot of residents and businesses. so a lot of opportunity for somebody to do what these three buys have done. >> gretchen: not to mention that aerial ariel castro was a bus driver and he had plenty of opportunity to canvas the area and possibly see the girls walking back and forth from work. here is what i want to bring your attention to. this morning it was posted on-line the number of missing people right now just in the cleveland area. there has been a big debate about the difference between a missing person and somebody who is abducted. and what really jumped out at me when i was looking at this list of about 70 people was that i would say at least ten to 15 of these missing people in cleveland alone were women, girls between the ages of 14 and

17. is that normal? if we went and did this research in every big town, would that be normal? are they going to look at all those missing girls now? >> yeah. that's a good question. unfortunately, that is the normal age range for missing people, girls between that age range. so they are looking at each and every one. not just in cleveland, though. right outside of cleveland in the akron area. these are areas that easily accessible to anybody in the cleveland area. they are going to look at that. but if you look across the country, you will see that statistic all over the country about that age range. >> steve: right. rod, one other thing about this particular case. the bus driver, ariel castro, apparently, according to the news sources in cleveland, apparently his family had a connection to all of the missing girls, which could explain how he first interfaced with them when he first abducted them. >> that's right. according to some of the published reports yesterday, the

father, i believe of amanda or gina, one of the girls, was in the same band. he played an instrument with aerial. again, there is that connection. not only that, two of the girls that were missing that were recovered, they worked at that burger king that i was talking about. so again, that's another avenue that the police are going to look at. what is the connection between all of these folks? >> brian: rod, i just wonder from the investigator's point of view, when they look at a town like this, which is a working class area, are they viewing that area from the law enforcement point of view different from an upper class, middle class area? is that why they're not following up on all these leads or is it too many leads to handle? >> i wouldn't say that. that would be a stretch to say that, brian. i'm very familiar with that area, like i said. it is a working class area. i think the police department with the resources that they have, the limited resources, that could play a role in this. i think they coo a pretty good job at trying to follow up on most of these cases. it's a tough case. >> gretchen: reports are that this home was going into

foreclosure. what would have happened inside the mind of this guy if -- now this home is not available for him, for these three women to be held captive anymore. have you thought about how that might have factored into any of this? >> you know, i think, and i think that's a good question. but i think if that was the case, if they would have been evicted, they probably would have moved these females somewhere else. >> gretchen: very interesting. rod wheeler, thanks so much for your insight. >> thank you. >> gretchen: today's other headlines, the million dollars reward for ex cop turned killer, christopher dorner, will be split three ways, 15% will go to the man who found his burning truck and the tow truck driver who spotted dorner at a gas station gets 5%. the majority of the money, about $800,000 going to the couple from who he held hostage. brian? >> brian: all right. a new medical breakthrough for millions of americans suffering from back pain. turns out your cure could be a simple pill. the study out of denmark, thanks, finds almost half the

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>> brian: going back to what's going on in cleveland now, the investigation, we are learning a few other things. police are holding to the fact that they only got two calls over there over the last ten years. they responded to both of them officially. all those other calls and all the other incidents and examples, they have no record of any of them. that's according to our reporters on the ground and what law enforcement is telling them. >> steve: the feeling is that when they went to the house, they were obviously people in there. reports that the women were physically abused, confirmed about that. they were bound. they were chains and ropes found in the house. the women were rarely allowed outside and the police checked their reporting system. no record of any calls aside from the two, one where mr. castro reported a street fight and the other where he was involved where a kid fell asleep on his bus. those are the only two official instances of people going to that house on seymore street. >> brian: i'm sure is thank is going to be a topic on "the

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>> brian: it sounds there is a game of musical chairs going on at daytime talk shows like requesting the view" with joy behar leaving the show and rumors that elizabeth hasselbeck may be replaced. >> gretchen: let's ask one of the co-hosts and the author of the new book "plan b." sherry shepherd is here with us. >> good morning to you. >> brian: was there a chance you will be the only host of "the view"? >> oh, my god! my view and only my view. everybody else shut up. it's elizabeth hasselbeck and barbara still there. whoopie as well. it's just joy who is leaving. we're having our auditions now. >> steve: on your program, you talk all about the news of the day and things like that. tell us a little bit about how you came face-to-face with the situation where suddenly it's like, i need a gun. >> oh, we had in our home, about a week and a half ago, the alarm went off. it said intruder, intruder.

get out of the house. we have two dogs, but they didn't bark. immediately my husband jumped up, ran downstairs and i ran to my son's room and i never wanted a gun in my house. but the sight of my son laying there going mommy, i'm scared. the only thing i had, that's when you realize, all you got is a wicker trash bag between me and anybody that comes in this room. it was a scary thought. i said to my husband, i want to get a gun. 'cause i don't ever want to not be able to defend my family if it came down to it. >> brian: wicker can be dangerous. >> scrape your eye, get a little blister. >> gretchen: it's interesting because authorities say until you find yourself in these positions, you should always have a plan, et cetera, until you find yourself there, maybe you don't think about getting a gun. now you talked about that on the show and there was some interesting reaction. here is sherry. >> 1 in the morning, the alarm in our house went off. where it said warning, intruder, get out of the house. he started looking around the house, my husband.

i ran down the hall to jeffrey's room and i realized as i was downstairs and he had our dog with him, we have nothing to protect our home with. jeffrey was scared. he's going, mommy, what's wrong? all i had was a wicker garbage can and i said, we don't have nothing. we're going to get a gun. >> it scares me what you're talking about because when you have a gun, the tendency is to use it and sometimes you use it in the wrong way. >> steve: you know. >> brian: does that scare you straight? are you not going to get a gun now? >> no, it didn't scare me at all. people who say that have never been in the position of having to defend their family. i'm not going to get a gun and i'm going to go, oh, my gosh. we're going to a gun range. we're going to learn how to use it. we're going to lock it up. there is a safe. we will do everything we can to be responsible. >> steve: how many people up in boston when those guys were loose a couple of weeks ago wish, i wish we had a gun? >> i'm not agreeing with all of that, of being able to run around with one. >> steve: i'm talking about when they were loose and didn't know

where they were. >> absolutely. absolutely. somebody breaking into your home and you can't defend it? if you want to protect your home, definitely. >> brian: or laying in your boat. let's talk about something else that matters to you a lot because unfortunately, you have to deal with that, diabetes. >> yes. >> brian: so you have plan d is out, how to lose weight and beat diabetes even if you don't have it. >> i was diagnosed with diabetes a couple weeks before i started "the view." i was 197 pounds. my mom passed away, unfortunately, at 41 from complications from diabetes. and i said, i didn't want that for me. so i had to learn an entirely new way of eating. i had to learn to love exercise. elizabeth hasselbeck said when you exercise, it releases endorphins. i thought she said orgasm. >> brian: we wouldn't have a crew if that was the case. get off the trampoline. >> gretchen: no matter what, it worked. you dropped weight and feeling better. >> i dropped 40 pounds. i never felt better in my life.

i detail it of how you can, if you're prediabetic, don't be paralyzed with fear. if you make simple changes, you won't be here with me. if you're diabetic, make changes. exercise, eating, and you can live a full life. >> steve: you are off your meds now? >> i was on three medications, i'm completely off. >> steve: if you know somebody with it, diabetes or you think you might be on the verge of it, check out her book. >> don't be scared. >> brian: you were in denial for a while, but now you're not. >> i am not. >> brian: having a show where people talk to each other on the couch will never work. [ laughter ] >> steve: thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. >> gretchen: coming up, the media has been mocking fox news for asking tough questions about benghazi. now all of a sudden those folks are asking the same questions? maybe so. peter johnson, jr. here next. >> brian: no one ever mocks bill hemmer. am i right, steve? >> steve: actually i heard you in the last commercial.

>> brian: shhh. >> tell sherry i'm about to go on my medication. see you on the radio a bit later today. you guys just mentioned this. a big day in benghazi. what are we going to learn about what happened that night? what will learn about what happened in the days that followed? jason chaffetz, michael shirtoff and others will guide us. also from cleveland, do police have any answers to what went down there? we're still awaiting charges, we'll see you shortly on "america's newsroom" for all of that and more how can you get back pain relief that lasts up to 16 hours? with thermacare heatwraps. the only wrap with patented heat cells that penetrate deep to relax, soothe, and unlock tight muscles. and now, introducing reusable thermacare cold wraps. pain relief without the shock of ice. ♪

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>> brian: while fox news and a few others have investigated the truth behind the benghazi massacre last september, most left wing and mainstream media

outlets spent a lot of time ridiculing the search for the truth and discredit those searching to get the truth. peter johnson, jr. is here to explain. >> good morning. >> brian: where did the mocking start? >> it started right away. fox was on it right away. this show was on it right away. the washington bureau of fox was on it right away and the main stream and left stream media said well, benghazi is a bit of a joke in some respects. it's more subject to batonnery and mocking of fox rather than covering the actual story. so time and time again, whether it was on the colbert report, whether it was on the daly show, which are agents of the white house in terms of being the new centurions of media enforcement, they said let's make fun of bret baier and jennifer imprison. let's make fun of peter yonson and "fox & friends." let's make it seem like the whole thing is a joke. and let's take a look at bill

maher on hbo. >> one way i really think you could do that is to get off this benghazi thing. to me, this would be the clearest signal from conservatives that they have turned this corner. because i still do not know what this scandal is. i do not know what the point of it is. i do not know what obama's fiendish plot was. >> so the issue became shield the administration from the harm. shield the administration from being discredited and at the same time, discredit the journalists who were involved with that story. >> brian: it's so obvious that the investigation before what happened after and the cover-up and the change in talking points. >> we see it today in the hearings in washington that will talk about why wasn't there a response team? was the response team ever called? we saw it this week with jonathan halter, his attack on fox news and on this show which was utterly discredited by looking at the videotapes. >> brian: i don't even know who he is.

here is steven colbert. >> but ultimately, the question is how many questions do we have to ask before voters forget president obama killed osama bin laden? >> that was the whole point. we lost mr. woods, mr. smith, mr. dougherty and ambassador season, but it really doesn't matter because in the end, president obama got bin laden and he deserved your vote. today the american people are going to begin to hear the truth of what happened in benghazi and the media has been hiding all these eight months. >> brian: thanks so much. back to wrap things up in just a moment angie's list is essential. i automatically go there.

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>> gretchen: tomorrow we'll have the mother of sean smith react to the whistle blowers testimony on hill. he was killed in benghazi, one of the four.

>> brian: also have bob massi, dolly parton and a special happy birthday to toba, 50 years old today. i have never met him in person. >> steve: happy birthday, toba bill: good morning. this could be the day we get answers. a house committee holding a key hearing on what went wrong in benghazi. as we hear publicly and in some cases for the first time from whistleblowers who say more could have been done to save american lives and the administration sought to cover up the botched response in the days and weeks following september 11. i'm bill hemmer. alisyn: four americans with distinguished careers lost their lives in the attack. chris stevens, sean